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Post by macdaddy on Mar 29, 2009 21:45:17 GMT -5
Got stopped by dot leaving track. They are waiting on 369 for us to leave , i am not the only one this has happened to. we are being targeted. got me for overlength and wrong saftey chain placement. the law in texas is 65ft for a vehicle registered as a motorhome was told if you had a overlength permit it was not valid for motorhomes and you would be parked on the side of road. I will contact my state rep David Farabee on monday to see about getting laws changed as north carolina did for their racers. Please call farabees office @940-322-4122 and explain to him our situation and what he could do for us. Remember they could get you next week as they on parking on 369 and waiting for us to leave. the dot officer said they cracking down on us. thanks roger
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Post by alaneaves on Mar 30, 2009 7:49:40 GMT -5
This dude got me to, I don't know what we can do. I guess call farabee like roger said. I got the real thing, to long.
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Post by ardmoredragway on Mar 30, 2009 8:39:48 GMT -5
Got stopped by dot leaving track. They are waiting on 369 for us to leave , i am not the only one this has happened to. we are being targeted. got me for overlength and wrong saftey chain placement. the law in texas is 65ft for a vehicle registered as a motorhome was told if you had a overlength permit it was not valid for motorhomes and you would be parked on the side of road. I will contact my state rep David Farabee on monday to see about getting laws changed as north carolina did for their racers. Please call farabees office @940-322-4122 and explain to him our situation and what he could do for us. Remember they could get you next week as they on parking on 369 and waiting for us to leave. the dot officer said they cracking down on us. thanks roger I think you need to get your facts together before you contact your polititions. I will see what kind of info I have.Not sure what interstate is but I know in states that have a law for 48' you are allowed to go a mile of interstate which are not state regulated. Also as a note if they want to get sticky they can also get you for not having CDls. The rule is if you are runing for prize money it can be construed as comericial. (who wins any way so I'm out) I had a dot tell me he could even goes as far as to get the little old lady that Knits blankets and taking them to flee markets. Seems as they have nothing better to do. Rick Carrell |
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Post by junker on Mar 30, 2009 12:07:29 GMT -5
If the vehicle is NOT titled as a commercial vehicle,you DO NOT need a CDL. It does not matter what you use it for. It has to be titled " Commercial" to be required to have a CDL. And if it is under 26,000 lbs you don't need a CDL. Alot of companies will remove leaf springs to be under weight. so the drivers don't need one.
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Post by beegodwin on Mar 30, 2009 12:27:54 GMT -5
nobody said they had to have a cdl ,but the law in texas says 65' for a strait truck and trailer or motor home and trailer  , or basically anything except a semi and trailer with a few exceptions[farm use etc.], if you reg as com. veh. you still dont have to have a cdl just a class a but you cannot reg a motorhome as a com. veh, catch 22  ,any way for some reason they are wanting to pick on them right now at least in this area |
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Post by ardmoredragway on Mar 30, 2009 14:53:14 GMT -5
I'm not saying you do or don't. I can tell you some hooror stories on the dot. It all depends on the officer attitude about the CDLS.Its kind of like the bible it can be intereputed any way whoever is interpertering it. The Feds and state have different rules but the feds usually overrule. Some states are 10000 lbs. And it goes by the combined gross of the truck and trailer, I've also had the check my weight rating on my tires and have recieved tickets. o I know of anclchol guy that had to be towed 12 miles from Branierd because he did not have CDL.
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Post by jeffster on Mar 30, 2009 22:23:52 GMT -5
I got stopped by dot coming back from abilene 2 yrs ago late at nite. (pickup-28ft triple axle trailer) First thing he asked was what was in the trailer (Answer Dragster) Next question-- Do you run for money? (answer I never win any money I race for hobby and trophys) Next question--How do you claim it on your taxes? (answer I dont) His responce good answer. Told me I needed an inspection sticker on the trailer if it weighed more than 4500lbs. Then let me go. Never looked at pickup just trailer and asked lots of questions. So looks like as times get tuff they will be lookin to stop anybody for revenue.
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Post by alaneaves on Mar 31, 2009 7:32:57 GMT -5
If you can convert a truck to a motorhome how come you can't convert a motohome to a truck??? Mabe one of those dot guys can tell me why..
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Post by Herodcrew on Mar 31, 2009 9:38:14 GMT -5
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Post by ardmoredragway on Mar 31, 2009 21:12:02 GMT -5
Allen
You can tag any vechicle comericial, But when you tag it comercial you are subject to dot rules, such ad driver qualiations all kind of paper work plus a dot phyisical every 2 years and 1 year if you have blood pressure problems, have a drug screen and participate in a random drug quasardium, keep vehicle records and also pay fuel taxes for each state you run in. You also have to get a dot number,be subject to audits,keep a log book and carry insurance to their requirments. It is no fun ....So I would take my chances ,the tickets are probally cheaper.
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Post by ardmoredragway on Mar 31, 2009 21:27:17 GMT -5
This is a Oklahoma law, but it applies to roads that are under federal regulations.
3. a. On the National Network of Highways which includes the National System of
Interstate and Defense Highways and four-lane divided Federal Aid Primary System
Highways, no semitrailer operating in a truck tractor/semitrailer combination shall have a
length greater than fifty-three (53) feet, except as provided in subsection (c) of Section 14-118
of this title which shall apply to semitrailers exceeding fifty-three (53) feet but not exceeding
fifty-nine (59) feet six (6) inches. On the National System of Interstate and Defense
Highways and four-lane divided Federal Aid Primary System Highways, no semitrailer or
trailer operating in a truck-tractor/semitrailer and trailer combination shall have a length
greater than fifty-three (53) feet.
b. On roads and highways not a part of the National System of Interstate and Defense
Highways or four-lane divided Federal Aid Primary System Highways, no semitrailer
operating in a truck-tractor/semitrailer combination shall have a length greater than fifty-three
(53) feet and no semitrailer or trailer operating in a truck-tractor/semitrailer and trailer
combination shall have a length greater than twenty-nine (29) feet. Except as provided for in
subsection (d) of Section 14-118 of this title, no other combination of vehicles shall have an
overall length, inclusive of front and rear bumpers, in excess of seventy (70) feet on all roads
and highways. For the purposes of this paragraph, oil field rig-up trucks shall be considered
to be truck-tractors, when towing a trailer or semitrailer
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Post by alaneaves on Apr 1, 2009 7:26:25 GMT -5
Allen You can tag any vechicle comericial, But when you tag it comercial you are subject to dot rules, such ad driver qualiations all kind of paper work plus a dot phyisical every 2 years and 1 year if you have blood pressure problems, have a drug screen and participate in a random drug quasardium, keep vehicle records and also pay fuel taxes for each state you run in. You also have to get a dot number,be subject to audits,keep a log book and carry insurance to their requirments. It is no fun ....So I would take my chances ,the tickets are probally cheaper. I was talking about regt. it just as a truck. That way thay tell me I can buy a permit and then be legal, with no dot reg. |
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 2, 2009 22:01:40 GMT -5
guys after countless calls to dot and dps here is what you need to be legal, a class a license(for permit) a $10000 surety bond,and an overlength permit which is 30,60 or 90 days. the 90 permit is $240. they will not require you to have class a to get permit but if you get stopped without the class a your permit is no good. was also told that if they stop you they look in trailer the must pretty much fill length of trailer so no excess floor unused. only car in length of trailer no generator,tool boxes,golf carts,4 wheelers etc in front or behind the car. these items can be on the side of trailer. This is temporary and could change at anytime , in other words they could change the law and not issue permits to motorhomes pulling trailers at any time. The dot officer said that if anybody had questions they could call him Robert Wilson@940-851-5500. also continue to call REPRSENTITIVE Farabee so we can get laws passed to permanently fix this. his #940-322-4122 talk to JERRI. thanks roger
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Post by artx on Apr 2, 2009 22:54:28 GMT -5
guys after countless calls to dot and dps here is what you need to be legal, a class a license(for permit) a $10000 surety bond,and an overlength permit which is 30,60 or 90 days. the 90 permit is $240. they will not require you to have class a to get permit but if you get stopped without the class a your permit is no good. was also told that if they stop you they look in trailer the must pretty much fill length of trailer so no excess floor unused. only car in length of trailer no generator,tool boxes,golf carts,4 wheelers etc in front or behind the car. these items can be on the side of trailer. This is temporary and could change at anytime , in other words they could change the law and not issue permits to motorhomes pulling trailers at any time. The dot officer said that if anybody had questions they could call him Robert Wilson@940-851-5500. also continue to call REPRSENTITIVE Farabee so we can get laws passed to permanently fix this. his #940-322-4122 talk to JERRI. thanks roger So if you get the Class A as the non-CDL license and the air brake endorsement you can get the overlength permit for a motorhome? I understand that if you get caught without the class A while driving and pulling a trailer, you are ineligible to test for the class A after that...that's scary! I agree with you on this law needing to be changed for motorsports like HB69 in North Carolina. I'd be happy to pay the fee to not have to worry about DPS and DOT all the time. I do think they should change the fee and make it an annual deal. I saw where another state had a year long overlength permit and it was about $40 a year. Having just bought a MH and yes knowing the 65 limit, I am right at 70' so this hits home for me. So the what area does does Farabee serve and what makes him the go to rep.? BTW, how much for the overlength ticket? |
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Post by macdaddy on Apr 2, 2009 23:18:04 GMT -5
you can get an annual but it is $4000,Farabee is north texas and allways seems to go to bat for the average joe voter. North Carolina hb69 has not put into law but has paased the house and looks to be put into law in july. I am taking all info I have on hb69 to farabee tomorrow this is a great bill that would fix our problem. so please call farabee or your state rep to co sponsor a bill that would help us.
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, or basically anything except a semi and trailer with a few exceptions[farm use etc.], if you reg as com. veh. you still dont have to have a cdl just a class a but you cannot reg a motorhome as a com. veh, catch 22 
,any way for some reason they are wanting to pick on them right now at least in this area